just tell us about that. why did you take him and what was it like for both of you to meet such an ironic anything >> it was overwhelming for both of us, because you represent, i think, not just -- not just ironic, but she embodies for me a model of power that is very real and very useful for the 21st century, because there's nothing self-interested in it. she really is invested in the people, and in particular in the young people, so much so that she invited tindy, who is working in liberia, to come and help her with some of the young people who've been involved in conflict in myanmar. she's incredibly open and very responsive to the right kind of input. but if it's the wrong kind of input, she's very clear she doesn't want the country to rush into unsuitable relationships with unscrupulous big business. >> emma thompson talking to me earlier about her trip to the charity, action aid, to burma. now, it's killed three people in the last two months, and the hunt is on for a great white shark off the coast of w